Legitimate Werewolf
Italics are quotes from Jeremy's article.
Spiller is 46th in the nation in rushing. Some might argue that there were games he didn’t carry the ball that much and was held out. However, look at his numbers for the number of touches he gets. Spiller averages 5.46 yards per carry, 45th in the nation among all RBs. 50 out of his 153 carries, or nearly 1 out of every 3, have been for 1 yard or less. Taking into account all his offensive production (running, receiving), he ranks 20th in the nation with 1218 yards. 15 RBs are above CJ in terms of their offensive production.
Jeremy starts this paragraph with a seeming acknowledgment of Spiller's combined 9 carries against Middle Tennessee State and Coastal Carolina, thus making the point that it is unfair to look at cumulative stats. Yet then he closes the paragraph by saying that Spiller only ranks 20th in the nation (15th among RBs) in terms of total offensive production: a stat that would be greatly affected by having only 9 touches in those games combined.
Jeremy then states that Spiller averages only 5.5 yards per carry, but he doesn't consider the fact that Spiller has played behind a mediocre line on a bum toe for the entire season and regardless this is still higher than the 5.3 yards per carry that Toby Gerhart averages. Gerhart, of course, is legit Heisman candidate according to Jeremy, but Spiller is not. Go figure.
Spiller’s rushing stats are grossly overinflated by 1 or 2 long runs a game. The rest of the time, Spiller is actually a below average back. Check out the numbers through the FSU game:
Middle Tenn - 4 carries, 12 yards 3 ypc
GT - 1 carry for 20 yards and another for 25 yards, other 18 carries for 42 yards 2.33 ypc
BC - long of 13 yards, other 16 carries for 64 yards. decent at 4 ypc
TCU - long of 34 yards, other 24 carries for 78 yards. 3.25 ypc
MD - long of 12 yards, other 17 carries for 60 yards. 3.52 ypc
WF - long of 66 yards, other 8 carries for 40 yards. decent 5 ypc
Miami - long of 48, other 13 carries for 33 yards 2.54 ypc
FSU - long of 45, 21, and 36. Other 19 carries were for 63 yards. 3.32 ypc
This is the quite possible the dumbest statistic that I have ever seen in my life.
Who takes out 1-3 of the best stats and then averages the rest? Sorry, CJ, your 8 plays of 50+ yards this season no longer count. Those 3 long runs against FSU that helped win the game? Those are gone, too, because according to Jeremy, the only accurate way to measure a players value is by factoring out big plays.
Of course Mark Ingram's or Toby Gerhart's or Tim Tebow's or Colt McCoy's stats don't look as impressive either if you factor out their biggest 1-3 plays of the game, but Jeremy fails to mention this fact.
Voters Please Factor These Plays Out
Most will argue that CJ is such an exciting player because it is special teams as well. While he has 3 TDs, he is not even the best kick returner in the nation.
Spiller has 4 special teams TDs not 3, but perhaps Jeremy just factored that TD out because it was a big play and thus should not count in Spiller's favor.
Spiller is 4th in the nation in kickoff return average at 34 yards per return, but is 1st in the nation in percentage of kick offs returned for TD at 19%. DJ Monroe from Texas is second in nation at 14%.
Also not factored into Spiller numbers are the numerous times that teams have given up field position to kick away from him.
A couple of examples include the opening kickoff against Wake Forest where Clemson started on Wake's 46 after a short kick to avoid Spiller, and against NCSU where Clemson started at NCSU 17 after a punt travelled 6 yards in an attempt to angle the ball away from Spiller.
These numbers don't show up in the stats, but a player that puts so much fear into opposing teams that they are willing to routinely give your offense great starting field position cannot be underestimated and is more important than Jeremy is willing to admit.
CJ averages 9.81 yards per play (including rushing, receiving, and returns). That average actually puts him at 50th in the nation. What this tells us is that his total yards are grossly overinflated based on kick and punt returns.
Spiller might be 50th in nation in yards per play, but if Jeremy knew much about football then he would know that yards per play is dominated by wide receivers and return specialists, not running backs.
What is funny is that if you throw out return yards for Spiller, Gerhardt, and Ingram, and focus only on rushing and receiving, you get the following yards per play:
Spiller - 6.9
Ingram - 6.9
Gerhardt - 5.5
Spiller is hyped as an exciting player who is a threat every time he touches the ball. Yet Clemson is ranked 63rd in the nation in offense. And of there 40 TDs, Spiller has scored 11 of them. Only 7 of those have actually come on offense (rushing or receiving). He might be a threat but his play doesn’t turn into many TDs or much offense for Clemson. Contrast this with a player like Gerhart whose team is 14th in the nation in offense. He has accounted for 19 of Stanford’s 47 TDs and has truly carried this team. The same could be said of Mark Ingram as well. Neither player is flashy like Spiller but these two players, in just runing the ball only, have been more valuable and more productive playing in better conferences against better teams than Spiller. And Spiller’s stats are grossly overinflated and overvalued by one of the easiest yardage stats in football - returns
Spiller's play doesn't turn into many TD according to Jeremy, yet Spiller has a lower touch per TD average then either Gerhart or Ingram.
Spiller averages 1 TD per every 13.7 touches
Gerhart averages 1 TD per every 14.2 touches
Ingram averages 1 TD per every 16.9 touches
These stats are not accurate according to Jeremy B, though, because they count Spiller's 4 TDs on special teams. Apparently, only offensive TDs show up on the scoreboard and really the only accurate way to measure the value of CJ Spiller is to look at yards per rush (but only after factoring out long runs!).
I am not a fan of Tebow, Ingram, McCoy, Gerhart, or any of their teams. I just think including Spiller as a candidate is based more on hype rather than substance.
No, but what you are is a South Carolina fan who is biased against Clemson and CJ Spiller. You also don't know how to properly use statistics and apparently know very little about the game if you think that special teams doesn't have a profound effect on the outcome.
Spiller might not be the best pure RB in the country, but when you combine his impact in the running game, in the passing game, and in the return game, Spiller deserves to be in the mix for Heisman just as much as Tebow, Ingram, McCoy or Gerhart
Jeremy Branham (916) 728-2006 What an idiot.
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine how big of a douche bag you have to be to send out an email railing on your rivals' possible Heisman candidate - and then have the nerve to call it unbiased is laughable. Bitter and sad are two adjectives I'd use to describe Mr. Branham. It sucks your team is taking another late season swoon but my god do you really need to take so much time concentrating on one player on your rivals' team?
ReplyDeleteExcellent retort of Jeremy's bogus use of stats. The funny part is how Jeremy claims he has nothing against Spiller or Clemson but the fact he is a South Carolina graduate and fan it should not matter. Jeremy is just sad Clemson has beat his team so many times the term "rivalry" is not really acurate anymore. To be a true rivalry, the other team needs to win more than once every 4 or 5 years.
ReplyDeleteWant to know why I did this. Here is a breakdown.
ReplyDelete90% of Spiller’s time on the field (177 plays) is on offense. Because of that, I wanted to focus on where he spends most of his time to see where he ranks and compare to him other players at his position. He is 46th in the nation and in yards per carry. 20 percent of his season total in rushing yards came in one game against the 105th ranked rush defense in the country. He has scored 11 TDs on offense. He has 50 carries of 1 yard or less, 1 out of every 3, which is one of the highest percentages of any RB. In total offense yards, he ranks 21st - behind 16 other RBs. He is not in the top 10 in the nation in receiving yards or receptions. In nearly every one of those stats, he is surpassed both Gerhart and Ingram. Offensively, where he spends 90% of this time on the field, Spiller ranks as rather average.
On the flip side, Spiller spends 10% of his time, or 22 plays, on kick returns. He is a great returner. However, return are statistically and factuall speaking, the easiest yards to gain in total yards and yards per play in all of college football. Nearly 40% of CJ’s total yards have come from 22 plays on returns.
With that said, why is it not logical to focus the analysis on CJ where he spends 90% of his time? In doing so, he is a rather mediocre RB not matter how you do the analysis. 22 plays aren’t enough to vault a mediocre RB into a Heisman winner. I don’t care how good of a return guy he is. People want to pay attention to the few big plays he has and ignore what he does a majority of the time on the field.
Those are the facts. Those are the things that needed to be pointed out as too much hype has surrounded CJ. People take a few plays and ignore what he does 90% of the time he is on the field. Why should a RB, who is statistically inferior to the 2 other Heisman contending RBs and whose best games were against Miami and FSU while the other 2 had great games against 2 top 10 teams. Sorry, looking at the complete package of what he has done doesn’t qualify him as a candidate.
By the way, all those yards on offense where he ranks as mediocre includes every one of his big plays. And he still ranks as a mediocre RB even with all the big plays!
ReplyDeleteBut the oppenent pay attation to what he does on the field 100% of time. Why should we do less?
ReplyDeleteSo what you are saying is the other 10% of the time, or 22 plays, is enough to vault a mediocre running back into a Heisman winner? You really believe those 22 plays, even looking at the total body of work, is enough to overcome a RB who is rather mediocre 90% of the time?
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to agree with me. People's opinions are different. But I took an objective, statistical look at CJ on offense and made valid comparisons to him with other players at his position to see how he performs. You may hate that I did it but you can't argue with my logic or the argument I making. You think he is Heisman worth is your subjective opinion. I gave objective data and statistical analysis, which includes his big plays, to make mine.
Jeremy the Douchebag... how's life treating you in Sacramento? Must be boring out there and have a lot of time on your hands... Blow it out your ass. CJ is a legit Heisman contender, the fact is his production is equal to and better than Reggie Bush in all categories. Period. Run along now Coot.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you lie and say that he only has 3 TD on returns? How many more lies are in the rest of your writing? How can people even think to take you seriously? Do you expect people to fact check every thing you write? That appears the only way to take your writing.
ReplyDeleteCock-a-doodle-do
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Carolina Gamecocks
to hell with you!
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteSo CJ has 1 out of every 3 rushes for 1 yard or less, but still manages to average the same yards per touch or better as your two "legitimate" Heisman contenders (Ingram and Gerhardt).
Do you think that is indicative of the sub-par offensive line that Clemson has or CJ's "average" rushing ability.
Like it or not, Spiller is as good as any player in the league, at just about any skill position. Your fandom is keeping you from seeing this.
So CJ Spiller has more speed than the other RB you wrote about we should take off his longer runs because the other guys couldn't do it? That is just plan DUMB! Just imagine how many more yards he would have had if he didn't have a turf toe. You could count those out too.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, the ignorance continues. The comparisons to Reggie Bush. CJ is accomplishing in 4 years what Bush did in 3. CJ has almost as many rushes in his career as Reggie Bush had total plays in his. And CJ still isn't done. And the year Bush actually did win the Heisman, he was 4th in the nation in rushing. CJ is 46th.
ReplyDeleteYou see, some people have the ability to use analysis and look beyond their own subjective opinion to provide some factual data to back up what they believe. Sorry if facts don't sit well with you. However, people urge me to look at his entire body of work. So I looked at 90% of CJ's production, see that he is rather mediocre in comparison to other players at his position, and feel that 22 plays isn't enough to vault a mediocre RB into a Heisman winner.
Why so many of you get angry and upset over a reasoned, logical opinion using facts is beyond me. People are writing and talking about me with such anger and hatred, putting out my personal information, sending me hateful emails, and not one time I have ever slammed CJ. Yet I am the douchebag here.
He is a good kid with good character and he should be proud of that and not once have I EVER made this personal. I only used the NCAA stats to evaluate his performance and give an objective comparison based to other players based on the numbers.
Using Coot Logic and getting caught in a lie.
ReplyDeletePRICELESS
i went to school with this branham kid...his mom used to write excuses to the PE teacher so he could sit out of competitive exercises b/c he was a pussy...he never dressed out in PE b/c he was scared of being seen in his panties. he spent PE class in the locker room and the gym teacher ran back to the locker room one day during class and caught him jerking off and he got suspended. i see he still has a lot of alone time on his hands.
ReplyDeleteWoulda coulda shoulda. Many of you like to play that game. You can't evaluate a player or hand out awards based on that. If so, why don't we just project what Bradford could have done and invite him to the ceremony as well? This is based on performance. And if you read what I posted above when analyzing his offense, I didn't take out a single big play. However, the other 2 RBs have been better than CJ and more consistent.
ReplyDeleteYou can read in numerous places where I have posted stuff about CJ and will see every time I say he is a great return man. However, that only accounts for 10% of his time on the field. Return yards are the easiest yardage stat to attain in all of college football. If returns were so important in and of themselves, why not just give the Heisman to guy with the most return yards or highest return average every year?
People continue to say look at the whole body of work. So while I don't discount him as a great return guy, I don't believe 22 plays are enough to merit the best player in college FB when he is a mediocre RB the 90% of the time he is offense. That IS looking at the total body of work and many people just want to ignore that and use their subjective views like he is great, fast, a threat, or he is a great return guy while actually ignoring his total body of work.
writing a diatribe against a college kid winning a sports award...no you're not the douchebag at all.
ReplyDeleteDear Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteFrom reading your material, and judging by the fact that you live in California, your farts make no noise do they?
I was actually a 4 year starter in baseball in high where I made first team all region and was given an opportunity to play baseball in college. But glad you know so much about me.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry if the statistical analysis makes many of you angry. I didn't make up the stats. I am just presenting them in a very valid and logical way for comparison. Get mad at them not me. You don't have to like my conclusions but you can't really argue with them. It is a valid point of view I am making based on stats and facts, not opinions.
And seriously, some of you get some professional help for your anger and bitterness issues.
Idiot. Spiller was a backup for three of his 4 years or else his numbers would be way higher than what they are now, which is pretty high.
ReplyDeletehow's the budget travel examining business?
ReplyDeleteJeremy,
ReplyDeleteAren't Tebow's numbers terrible by his own standards and even in measuring up to other QB's across the nation? What about Ingram not having a 100 rushing game against any rushing defense better than 43rd in the nation? Colt's numbers aren't nearly impressive as his number's from last year?
A diatribe? Show me one thing I said that was derogatory or a personal attack against Spiller in any way. I dare you.
ReplyDeleteLOL, this sums up Jeremy's analysis right here:
ReplyDelete"However, people urge me to look at his entire body of work. So I looked at 90% of CJ's production."
Don't worry, only 5% of the Heisman voters will look at 2% of your "work".
If I am not mistaken, CJ is the feature back this year and is only 46th in the nation in rushing and yards per carry. Don't think Bush was the primary back all 3 years at USC.
ReplyDeleteAgain, look at the numbers. Woulda coulda shoulda doesn't work here. Bush accomplished the same thing Spiller has in far fewer plays and in less time.
So, let me get this straight J.B., this "objective" analysis has nothing to do with what uniform C.J. Spiller wears. You're saying you would have certainly sent this letter to numerous media members had Spiller been a Gamecock? How about any team other than Clemson?
ReplyDeleteBwahahaha. Jeremy your life is so sad man. You actually took time out of your life to run a smear campain against a college kid for doing nothing but trying his best to help his team win. Shame on you. Get a life dude.
ReplyDeleteBarry, I agree with you on Tebow and McCoy. I don't think they are Heisman worthy and shouldn't even be in the top 3 this year. The only thing they have going for them is they are competing for a title. Statistically, they are going ok (and by comparison better than CJ in judging other QBs at their position) but they don't deserve to be Heisman candidates this year. Ingram does. He is 6th in the nation in rushing, has a 6.69 average, and has had HUGE games against top 10 teams VT and LSU. And destroyed top 25 ranked South Carolina. CJ's stats are worse than Ingram's and his 2 biggest games have come against Miami and 5-5 FSU where 20 percent of his season rushing yards came in the one game against the 105th ranked rush defense in the country.
ReplyDeleteBush didn't have Rob Spence for 3 years.
ReplyDeleteAlso, withold all statistical information until Clemson gets to play out the season. It's not fair that Teabow and Ingram already got to play the South Carolina Heismanmakers. Seriously, Ingram got like 20% of his total yards against y'all. Maybe we can normalize everyone's stats by eliminating SCAR, then look at the unbiasedly? LOL!
JB-
ReplyDeleteI'm working on getting you the copy of the letter sent from THE HEISMAN TROPHY TRUST to our very own CJ Spiller letting know that he is a candidate. If that's not good enough for you, I'm not sure what is.
I do see where you are coming from though. You are a gamecock fan whose team is in shambles. You see your rival, who already dominates you annually, with a clear path to a conference championship game and a legitimate Heisman Trophy Candidate.
If I were in your shoes, I would probably try to discredit CJ as well. There sure isn't much to write about the gamecocks.
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteCouldn't I pull up statistics in the same way you did on CJ about Tebow, Ingram, and McCoy?
Answer this question for me...out of Tebow, McCoy, Ingram, and Spiller who can score more quickly and more often in a single game? Who can score more ways? Who is more feared by defensive coordinators? Who do you have to account for more on every offensive play? Special teams play? Game?
"Top 25 ranked South Carolina," eh.
ReplyDeleteInteresting comment.
Yes, if CJ were a Gamecock I would absolutely feel the same way. Statistically speaking, CJ is one of the worst candidates in the last decade. This is a weak year for the Heisman and I wanted to point out how much his candidacy has been about hype rather than substance.
ReplyDeleteFor those giving me a hard time about emailing this, I sent this to a few writers that I read here in CA, in SC, and those I have had conversations with before. As far as affecting the Heisman race, my words have actually been seen by less than 5% of the total Heisman voters. On the flip side, what do you do when you have an issue you want to voice? Do you not write your congressman or Senator and voice your concern to those who vote and represent you? How was what I did here any different? All of you have just as much opportunity to do the same thing in favor of CJ as I did. I felt I had a different perspective on this, which I obviously have, and wanted to share it.
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteWhere are your emails to Heisman voters railing against McCoy and Tebow then?
I'd like to see those since you are so unbiased and are looking out for the integrity of the Heisman Trophy.
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteyou're a grown man. why do you waste your time trying to thwart a college kids success? the more you defend yourself the more pathetic you look. writing a letter like that about a kid from a rival of the school you used to go to and actually sending it to voters is beyond shameless. the mental vacuity you've demonstrated leads me to believe i'm just as bad trying in vain to help you understand this. so i'll just shut up by saying i wish great success in life to all the players at Carolina except against us and i hope you come to your senses and realize that you're not a writer or even a very intelligent human being and move on to something else.
You might need to get your stat-spinning machine working overtime to justify calling SCU a "Top 25 Ranked" team.
ReplyDeleteJeremy loves track lighting and gerbels.
ReplyDeleteTim Tebow is a QB, so take out all his rushing yards then, right?
ReplyDeleteSo, he's ranked:
#93 in passing completions per game,
#80 in passing yards per game,
#71 in total passing yards
Jeremy, go write another letter, please.
lol, Spiller only spends 10% of his time on ST, so it doesn't count? GMAFB. A statistician, you are not.
ReplyDelete"Do you not write your congressman or Senator and voice your concern to those who vote and represent you? How was what I did here any different? "
ReplyDeleteumm, because writing your "congressman or Senator" (two words for the same thing) is not insane.
Scotchtiger, I have already seen it. So no need to make the effort.
ReplyDeleteBarry, is Tebow, McCoy, and Ingram not as valuable to their teams as Spiller? Offensively, Spiller is not as productive as those. A threat, yes. However, for me personally, I can't measure a player's performance for the Heisman in terms on threats, potential, or what could happen. I am looking at what actually has occurred and how they compare with the ball in their hands.
With that said, I understand if people want to look at this differently. However, my point of view, my comparisons, and my argument are just as valid as anyone else on here. You don't have to like it but you can't argue with the facts being presented and the way I am approaching this. It's a statistical comparison to judge his candidacy and it just as valid an opinion/look at CJ as those who use more subjective and intangible analysis. Do you not agree?
After all, aren't all of us measure in our jobs on both subjective and objective data? Don't we all have goals or objective things by which we are measured? Is it not fair to apply this same kind of analysis to CJ?
"You don't have to like it but you can't argue with the facts being presented and the way I am approaching this."
ReplyDeleteRight. No possible way to argue with someone arbitrarily throwing out certain statistics. Where the hell did you take statistics? Let me guess. scar.
He probably thinks that if you just take out the few plays a game where the other team scores, then USUCK would be undefeated!
ReplyDeleteSouth Carolina was a top 25 ranked team when they played Alabama. That is a fact. Just like some of you Clemson fans are going to argue that Miami was a top 10 team when you bea them right? Are they top 10 now. Please don't me hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteGuys, seriously. I wrote this in 15 minutes during my lunch break which was just a culmination of some posts I made on a forum. You really think that this consumes me. You all are making a much bigger deal out of this than me.
I wrote it because I honestly think he is the worst candidate of any Heisman candidate of the last 10 years. And while I don't think Tebow or McCoy should be winners at all this year, their teams are playing for national titles, they are putting up decent numbers, and they are the #1 player that their opponents try to stop. However, I will never argue for either of them for Heisman. I think Tebow, McCoy, and Spiller are more hype than substance.
Still waiting for the explanation on this "Top 25 Ranked" South Carolina nonsense.
ReplyDeleteSorry to tell you Jeremy but you define the phrase "statistics are for losers."
ReplyDeleteyou lost all cerdibility by disecting out the big plays. that is plain stupid.
also, and much more important, you have not applied the exact analysis to the other candidates when you are trying to argue who is a more viable candidate...rediculous.
finally, you may be the first guy in the history of the award to write such an article about a candidate and you are a grad of their rival...you even distributed it to voters. do you realize how big a douchebag you made yourself out to be? obviously not...hence one more reason you are a duochebag.
As for the budget travel business, things are picking up since I wrote this about CJ. :)
ReplyDeletebox125, please get a clue. These aren't arbitrary stats. I didn't need to manipulate or do any calculations. They are taken straight from the NCAA stats website. All you need to be able to do there is read man. It's not difficult. The facts are as clean as they can be. I didn't make them up or manipulate them, just reported them. I am sorry if factual data tracked by the NCAA offends you so much. You don't need a stats class to read numbers.
Wasn't Reggie Bush the feature RB on those USC teams? Spiller played behind James Davis (now in the NFL) 3 of his 4 years in an offense that was not geared to feature him. This being said, I think the "Bush did it in 3 years" retort does not hold water. I would have liked to see the numbers Spiller would have had, and the national attention he would be getting, had he been the feature RB for 2-3 years. What Spiller has done at Clemson this year has been phenomenal, with less offensive talent around him then those other players on the list. Looking at him solely as a RB is fine... for an award given to RB's. I believe the Heisman is given to the best player regardless if he carrie the ball, catches it, returns kicks, or passes the ball. I believe Spiller has done all of those this year, each resulting in 6 points. Is he the best pure RB... no, at least not with his current O-Line! Is he the best WR... no! Is he the best return man... I think so! Does he throw the prettiest ball... no! But is he the best, and most complete player in the country. I think so.
ReplyDeleteI do not think he will win the Heisman because I feel the cards are stacked against him. I do think he will get an invite as longs as Clemson makes it to the ACCCG and he continues to play like he has been. He deserves that, at the least.
Josh,
ReplyDeleteDude you seriously need to get a life!!! So, if you don't think that Tebow or McCoy should be in the race, where are your statistics and e-mails trying to bash their Heisman chances???!!! Ahhh that's what I thought!! YOU ARE PATHETIC!!
Nice strawman, Jer. Notice no one here said anything about Miami being top-10 except......you. And then you soundly knock down that argument.
ReplyDeleteSlow clap.
What South Carolina was ranked 6 wks ago ranks right up there with the rest of your statistics. Terrible display of logic.
Jeremy,
ReplyDelete1) Again. Where are the emails to Heisman voters in opposition of the Heisman candidacies of Tebow and McCoy? I'd be interested in seeing those.
2) Forget # 1. The comparison of writing a letter in opposition of one's rival's Heisman candidate to Heisman voters and a citizen writing their Congressman is such an idiotic analogy you've just lost all credibility.
"box125, please get a clue. These aren't arbitrary stats. I didn't need to manipulate or do any calculations. They are taken straight from the NCAA stats website. All you need to be able to do there is read man. It's not difficult. The facts are as clean as they can be. I didn't make them up or manipulate them, just reported them. I am sorry if factual data tracked by the NCAA offends you so much. You don't need a stats class to read numbers."
ReplyDeleteFunny you mention the factual data tracked by the NCAA. Question--do they track big plays? How about special teams plays?
Honestly, how can you throw certain things out (big plays, ST plays) and say that's not manipulation? How can you say that his yards/carry isn't good enough but Gerhart's is?
Read my comments here. I looked at 90% of CJ's production which is on offense. I didn't take out a single play. And yet he is 46th in the nation in rushing and 16th in RBs in terms of total offense. That includes every big play he has had.
ReplyDeleteJeremy,
ReplyDeleteThanks again for the free pub. Classy to write an email against a kid's chance to win an award. I sure as hell don't have the time to write AGAINST one of your C0cks.
Dude,
ReplyDeleteWe are making a bigger deak out of this than you!????!!! Are you fu**ing kidding me!!?? It was a big enough of a deal for you to send this to journalist in Cali and SC and to voters!!
box125, read my comments above. In looking at every single play for CJ on offense and not taking out a single one, he ranks 46th in the nation in rushing and yards per carry and 16th among RBs in total offense. Every big play included!
ReplyDeleteAs for Gerhart, he has over 100 more carries than Spiller. As quantity goes up, average tends to go down. Gerhart's 2 biggest games have come against 2 top 10 teams and he has faced tougher defenses and a tougher schedule than CJ has.
Jeremy - all I can say is wow. Man it sucks to be you, I'm sure everyone out there says man Spiller is one of the worst Heisman candidates ever for the last 10 years. He is such a boring player to watch after all. Put away the picture of Spurrier and put your little peepee away.
ReplyDeleteJeremy, that stat would be very helpful if the Heisman were awarded to the best Running Back.
ReplyDeleteJeremy B,
ReplyDeleteYour gamecocks are nowhere near a top 25 team...Not even top 50. CJ Spiller accounts for much more on his kick returns than the 22 you credit him with. With routinely start at or beyond the 40 due to team's being afraid of CJ and pooching it or kicking it out of bounds. Just last week we started on the 16 yard line (yes 16 yards from scoring) because the opponent was afraid to kick it to CJ and instead kicked it straight out of bounds.
CJ Spiller does more for Clemson than anyone else in the nation does for their team period.
Tebow is as overrated as they get. Over 20% of his passing yards come from that inside shovel pass they do 10-15 times a game. Since you like claiming certain things shouldn't count that shouldn't count in his passing stats yet it does. Even with those Lord Tebow is only averaging ~170 yards passing. How about you write a letter about him. ESPN has him #1 in their Heisman poll. Unless you are a complete piece of shit you'll write everyone at ESPN to discredit Tebow as CJ is 10 times the candidate this year that Tebow is.
If you factor in that Spiller has a combined what 9 carries against the two crappy teams Clemson has played that makes Spiller look even better. I guarantee if you took out the two worst teams Ingram played that Spiller would look much better than Ingram. You claim pathetic South Carolina is a top 25 team...look at what CJ did against ACTUAL top 25 teams in Miami (310 yards) GT (156 yards not including returns) TCU (191 NOT INCLUDING RETURNS).
TCU has as high or higher ranked D than anyone Ingram has gone against AND TCU has beaten as many CURRENT top 25 teams than the entire SEC has COMBINED
You are just a fucking blind homer and nothing more
Holy mother. As if you needed to disqualify yourself any further, you lay THIS gem out there:
ReplyDelete"As quantity goes up, average tends to go down."
Wow, man, wow.
Wow.
let's post his phone number on the rivals mainboard and see what they think about it.
ReplyDeleteJeremy, you do realize that Spiller and Gerhart have a common opponent, right?
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, Spiller had a couple of big plays in that game that don't count.
No one on South Carolina is worth writing about.
ReplyDeleteHere is what many of you don't get. I will be the first to bash my own team when necessary. You won't see me apologize for our struggles or make excuses. I know what our history is and I don't apologize for it.
At the same time, I can take my feelings out of it and look at this statistically which is what I did with CJ. And with the Heisman candidates over the last 10 years, he is statistically one of the worst.
Now I can have a conversation about this and be as honest as I can. Many of you have taken this far too personally. I haven't. It's just a discussion and difference of opinion. You all make valid points and so do I. I can discuss this with civility but some of you resort to anger, bitterness, and hatred all over a football game and a player. It's not worth it. I went on one of the Clemson boards last night to say here I am, have discussions, and try to respond to as many people as I could. Same thing I am doing here. I just ask that many of you show respect and courtesy and not take this so personally.
Our rival is great and this is one of the examples about how passionate it can be. Don't take this so personally as I have welcomed and enjoyed the discussion. I only hope that you treat me with respect and give the me courtesy to at least understand my argument, even if it is different than yours.
jerm's get a life and pull for the real USC since you live in Cali
ReplyDeleteRespect? show CJ. Spiller some respect. Why would you bash a man? He isn't going out of his way to make sure you don't get the respect you deserve. Man, you don't see how wrong it is. Clemson fan, or SC fan, you look like a loser writing national media for another man not to get the respect he deserves.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea who you are and have never heard of you before today. From reading all this, I'm guessing you are a journalist who has emailed Heisman voters to point out why you think CJ Spiller's being a Heisman candidate is absurd. If I've misinferred anything, disregard what I say. Putting aside how insane it seems to me that anyone would try to convince voters not to vote for a candidate, I'd like to ask you one thing. Seriously... If you are a journalist, writer, commentator, or whatever...why the heck are you on a Clemson blog defending what you did? If you are a journalist that has the time/desire to go to fan sites and stand up for your actions, I'd suggest buying Rosetta Stone and learning a new language or buy a Bowflex or anything else productive.
ReplyDeleteOur rivalry isn't great...Sorry man, but that is the truth. SC is a never has been, and is riding the coat tails of the SEC's power rankings.
ReplyDelete"box125, read my comments above. In looking at every single play for CJ on offense and not taking out a single one, he ranks 46th in the nation in rushing and yards per carry and 16th among RBs in total offense. Every big play included!"
ReplyDeleteThat doesn't explain throwing out special teams. Yeah, I saw your "only 10% of his plays" spiel above. Pretty lame reason to throw something out. Like you love saying, the NCAA tracks it--it's black and white--but not to old Jeremy B, that statmaster.
"As for Gerhart, he has over 100 more carries than Spiller. As quantity goes up, average tends to go down."
lol, thanks for proving you failed statistics. Surely that's a joke. Jesus. Yes sir, you're all about the facts and that's it...
WOW:
ReplyDelete"As for Gerhart, he has over 100 more carries than Spiller. As quantity goes up, average tends to go down."
I'm sure you have evidence for that, too...
So, you want to look at a very specific window to support your argument. The Heisman winner should go to:
The player who puts up highly-ranked numbers in one specific category, associated with their primary position after removing outliers from their median, but cut back if the number of plays exceeds some imaginary threshold.
That or the best player on the best team.
According to you.
Perhaps a better, more classy argument would have been to prop up someone like Case Keenum FOR the Heisman...just looks a lot more Christian-like. I don't think this falls on the WWJD bracelet calendar.
ReplyDeleteAnyone interested in speaking with this douche:
ReplyDeleteJeremy Branham
916-728-2006
Don't call between 7-10pm tonight though, he is having his balls surgerical removed for more taint space.
Jeremy, do you like pasta?
ReplyDeleteThere goes the budding sports writing career. Perhaps talk radio would suit.
ReplyDeleteLMAO that Jeremy B reads this blog. What a tool.
ReplyDeleteMiami Herald sports columnist Edwin Pope - "you've hardly heard (Spiller's) name mentioned in Heisman Trophy conversations yet. Disgraceful."
What biased propaganda from Pope, huh?
Let's see, against #7 GT Spiller had (1) 87 yards rushing, (2) 69 yards receiving and a TD, and (3) 78 return yards [234 APY].
Against #4 TCU Spiller had (1) 112 yards rushing and a TD, (2) 79 yards receiving, and (3) 36 return yards [227 APY].
Ingram, for example, has only played one team currently in the Top 10. Against LSU he had (1) 144 yards rushing and (2) 30 yards receiving [174 APY], but no TDs.
Suck on that, cock.
Wow, what a stretch to come up with this line of reasoning. Certainly only 10% of CJ's stats come from returns. That's about the same percentage the special teams are on the field during a game. I've often heard it said that there is a fine line between a genius and an idiot and sir; I think that you just made that journey. Also, there has been discussion of the difference between idiocy and stupidity, sir; you are no idiot because ignorance can be corrected with learning. You can't see the truth due to your hatred of all things Clemson.
ReplyDeleteBoom-smack, Seth. Nicely done. Furthermore, Spiller and Gerhart have a common opponent: Wake Forest.
ReplyDeleteSpiller: 106 yds rushing on 9 carries, 6 yds receiving.
Gerhart: 82 yds rushing on 17 (!) carries, 12 yds receiving.
~80% of the rushing yards on ~2x the carries. Gerhart's clearly a Heisman candidate, right?
I've got it! Jeremy lives in Sacramento, CA. If I'm not mistaken this is the capitol of CA. He's the governator's financial policy advisor. Cranking out stats and financial recommendations to the governor and legislature of Cali everyday. I can see they have taken most of his recommendations Thanks to Jeremy, Cali is running smoothly. Jeremy wields his calculator and pen as the proverbial sword.
ReplyDeleteSOme thoughts about this...... Jeremy, how do you defend the fact that Spiller has a better TD per touch ratio vs. the other RB's?
ReplyDeleteAlso do you not even think about the fact that CJ could have EASILY put up 200 yards rushing against Middle Tenn ST and Coastal Carolina if he/Swinney had wanted to. WHere would he rank in the all important rushing statistics with another 300 or so yards rushing? I wonder where his YPC would be had he feasted on two bad teams like most other Heisman candidates do?
ANother thing to ponder is could CJ do what Gerhart and Ingram do behind those team's OL's against their schedules? Could Ingram and Gerhart have all of the special teams TD'S if they were featured in that role like Spiller? I doubt you can remove your bias in order to answer those questions honestly, at least publicly? I think it's obvious that those other guys could in no way come close to doing what CJ does as far as the big plays go. I'm not saying CJ could be the workhorse that Ingram is at Bama but he'd come a hell of a lot closer than Ingram would to matching CJ's numbers.
The Doak Walker award is given to the best RB in football. The Heisman is given to college footballs most outstanding player. He runs, catches, plays special teams and even throws a TD pass. He is the most exciting player in football, and he is the epitomy of the MOST OUTSTANDING PLAYER this year. You are just a jealous whiny little sissy ass bitch to to actually send this to Heisman voters. Yea your wife is getting rammed while you are at work
ReplyDeleteSpecial Teams do not affect the outcome of football games.
ReplyDeleteWho cares that CJ Spiller takes a kick back more times than anyone in college football?
Who cares that CJ Spiller's presence causes a team to squib kick it to the 40?
Who cares that because of ONE PLAYER, our average starting field position is among the top in the nation, which makes it a shorter field, thus decreasing his "big plays" from 80 yards to 50 yards.
Who cares that a college punter kicked a ball out of bounds at the freaking 16 yard line trying to kick a punt away from CJ Spiller?
CJ Spiller did not cause any of that according to Jeremy.
According to Jeremy, the only stats that matter is how well CJ Spiller runs between the tackle. Special Teams certainly should have NO impact on Heisman considerations because Special Teams aren't really a part of college football games.
If Jeremy wants to use the quality of opposing defenses as an element of his argument, then he must also consider the quality of each player's supporting cast. It's a wash--if you're not a douche (or an idiot), that is.
ReplyDelete90%? 10%? WHO CARES?!?!
ReplyDeleteOne can skew statistics to support whatever position they would like. I could come up with statistics, when disected at this level, as to why Garcia should win the Heisman. We all know that he shouldn't, but I am sure I could make a "statistically supported" argument for it.
I work with people like you everyday and I typically ask them to leave the board room after they hand out their spreadsheet. Perfect example of not seeing the forest through the trees.
K.I.S.S.
If it runs like a Heisman candidate, catches like a Heisman candidate, and returns like a Heisman candidate, then it's probably a Heisman candidate.
Did the coot wannabe journalist who took it upon himself to try and torpedo C.J. Spiller's Heisman campaign by sending out disinformation to pundits around the country really just advise someone else to get a grip on their "bitterness and anger"?
ReplyDeleteJeremy, you need to stop getting a grip on various cocks and leave the hack journalism to trained professionals like Bart Wrong. Your attempts at salient logic are about as impressive as that shitbox program you claim. I'd rather listen to Stevie Garcia try and count to ten backwards after a few rounds at Five Points as he celebrates another hard fought moral victory.
STFU
Here's the part that yanks my head around: "isn't it logical to concentrate on where CJ spends 90% of his time?"
ReplyDeleteWell, in fact, no. However inconvenient, you have to look at the whole player. Tim Tebow is basically two players in one - a quarterback combined with a fullback, or more accurately, a B-back in an option offense - and that's what makes Tebow such a menace to match up with. But you don't see anyone looking for ways to throw away some of Tebow's numbers. Well, maybe FSU fans.
This is also the problem with Spiller. He's not just a RB. When defenses stack up against the run - which everybody has done all year, since aside from Jacoby Ford, Clemson's WR's are atrocious - and all of a sudden CJ is jogging by some poor LB on a wheel route, and 80 yards later, it's another instant six points. Which is demoralizing.
If you score and get those six points back, teams then have a choice - kick to Spiller, and chance seeing him get yet ANOTHER instant six points - which is even more demoralizing - or put it out of play. More and more often, teams are deciding it just ain't worth it, and they're blasting the ball out of bounds and handing Clemson the ball at the 40, on kickoffs (!) - because that's better than kicking to Spiller. That's a ton of "hidden" yardage that certainly isn't factored into anyone's stat sheets - but it also means Clemson still starts on shorter fields than anyone...which almost certainly explains the wide disparity between Clemson's scoring offense (a respectable 20th overall in the country at 33.0ppg) compared to its rather pedestrian total offense rank of 63rd overall - which is of course the only statistic you cited. But those short fields assuredly exist because of CJ Spiller. How might his yards-per-play start looking if that "hidden" yardage got likewise factored in?
I think you'd like it if all that hidden yardage stayed hidden. In addition to that 10% you prefer not talking about.
Then again, I can understand why you might not want people taking a real look at the actual statistics, and what they really tell about the influence CJ Spiller has on a football game. Because he influences games as much as any player I've ever seen.
-quozzel
You don't think Spiller is a candidate--that's your opinion and I get it. What I don't get is why you would feel the need to write people and "campaign" against him. What does it really matter to you? Other than South Carolina not having anything to brag about but their Heisman winner and you not wanting Clemson to have one, too. Childish!
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting that so many coaches disagree with Jeremy. 6 yard punt? Clemson starting near the 50 many times?
ReplyDeleteThe coaches Clemson plays against know how dangerous CJ is. The Heisman voters also understand.
Making a big deal out of this wannabe Germy is ridiculous in my opinion. His "journalism" amounted to nothing anyone cared to read before we made a big deal out of it.
Stay away from Germy and he'll crawl back into Starbucks for free WiFi and write something else noone cares about.
"Yes, if CJ were a Gamecock I would absolutely feel the same way."
ReplyDeleteThat's not what you were asked, you magnanimous douche. Answer the goddamn question. If C.J. Spiller played for the Cocks and got this kind of hype, would you or would you not write the same letter?
Right now, C.J. could run to Idaho, climb a mountain, smack you from there in the head with his gigantic cock, and still make it back in time to watch The Office.
I actually did know Jeremy in high school. Never really bothered me but I always thought he was a tool along with the rest of the school. Don't remember if he was all-region in baseball but our region was a joke. However, I think it's a joke that you are telling people that you had an opportunity to play in college. Please list the college you had a chance to play at. Also, I forgot that you are more qualified to judge stats than Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Kirk Herbstreit, Lee Corso, and other sports analysts that have CJ Spiller as a Heisman contender. It's sad that you went to the effort to send a letter to Heisman voters to not vote for a kid that has poured his heart and soul into a sport, university, team, etc. Hopefully, these voters had enough class and intelligence to vote on what they researched. And lastly, go FY!!!
ReplyDeleteTo me, the saddest part is that he is trying to do this to a 21 year old kid in college, who had excelled in the classroom and on the field. Never had any problems off the field, proudly shows his love for God, and just so happens to be smashing records. Taking the time to do this to a kid of great character shows what type of person you are. It will not matter anyway, since most of the experts have CJ in the top 3, include Mel Kiper placing CJ at 1. You are pitiful.
ReplyDeleteMark V
tigers30cocks0
JB, you say statistically speaking Ingram is the better running back? So now the heisman goes to the best RB in the country? And the best running back in the country is the one who rushes for the most yards and TDs? Im pretty sure that the Doak Walker award goes to the best pure RB in the nation, not the heisman! Judging by your argument on CJs rushing stats, your heisman front runner should be Ryan Matthews from Fresno St. You're not really a douche, you my friend are just a straight up idiot! Since you want to compare Ingram, Gerhert, and CJ's stats...Lets compare them. Since the heisman goes to the best player at regardless of position, we will compare their total contributions.
ReplyDeleteSpiller- responsible for 1951 yards and 14 TDs. One of only two players to score a touchdown in every game this year.
Ingram- 1522 yds and 13 TDs
Gerhert- 1482 yds and 19 TDs
Your comments on taking long plays out is the most hideous thing I have ever heard. If you did this, you would change college football's standings and stats as a whole. All plays count. We all know why you did this, you are a coot and the only thing you have in your pocket right now in cootlumbia is your heisman winner George Rodgers. If CJ wins this award you have nothing on Clemson in terms of football outside of continual humiliation. The saddest part is that you took 15 minutes out of your day to actually try to bring a college athelete down for the soul fact of his team beats the shit out of yours every year, and for 2 outta the last 3 matchups, he has been a big reason why. Does us all a favor and stick to sychronized swimming as your sport of choice, the one that actually suits a fella like yourself!
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteYou Gamecock fans truly amaze. You actually took the time to do the homework and then actually sent letters to sports writers? It must suck to be you.
I hope you realize that your little letter is not going to stop the annual beat down we put on your pathetic ass Gamecocks this year.
P.S. When you said that you were not a fan of Tebow, Ingram, McCoy etc. why didn't you mention who "your" team was?
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteI will give you some credit for some of your arguments and you at least trying to defend yourself. However, there are still some serious flaws in your logic that need to be addressed.
First, you say only 10% of his plays have come in the return game. That's not true. He's been on the field for more than 22 plays in the return game. It's not his fault - wait, yes it is - that opponents are terrified to kick to him and have given Clemson extremely good field position in the process. That is one of those intangibles that voters should consider.
Secondly, you keep saying that Gerhart has done what he has done while facing two top 10 teams. By that, I assume you mean Oregon and USC. Gerhart is a very good player and deserves tons of credit, but let's look at the REAL numbers you're talking about. Oregon's rush defense is currently tied for 44th in the country. USC's is ranked 54th. Rounding out the list of teams he's played, Wash. St. is 114th, Wake is 93rd, San Jose St. is dead last at 120th, Washington is 87th, UCLA 67th, Oregon St. 15th, Arizona 20th, and Arizona St. 21st. The fewest carries he's had in any game is 17, which was against Wake.
By contrast, Spiller has faced the 6th ranked rush defense in TCU, MTSU is 68th, GT is 31, BC 29th, Maryland 68th, Wake 93rd, Miaimi 37th, FSU 105th, and NCSU is tied for 44th. If you just want to include the top 10 opponents, TCU and GT's rankings in rush defense are much higher than Oregon's and USC's.
Furthermore, Spiller hasn't racked up huge numbers against the pushovers. He had 4 carries against MTSU and 5 against CCU. And for the record, he racked up 108 yards against Wake on 9 carries. Gerhart had 82 against them on 17 carries.
Keep digging. I'm sure you'll find something else you'll try to hang your hat on. The fact is the award is supposed to go the the best player. Not the best QB, RB, WR, etc. There's not question Spiller isn't the best RB in the country, but to say he doesn't deserve to be called one of the best players in the country is ridiculous.
Clemsonites are jealous that they've never had a Heisman winner.
ReplyDeleteClemson is gay.
ReplyDeleteDamn I smell a coot.....
ReplyDeleteHey Cocklover,
ReplyDeletehow about your worthless schools great Heisman winner, George "Fat Albert" Rogers. He played on a losing team, left school as a hero, cokehead that can barely spell his own name. he had to be given a "honorary" associates degree for his great attendance in that putrid school of yours.
CJ will graduate with a 3.0 average in 4 years, while setting records against the stinking lamechicks. Kiss it!
Bugmantom
I'm going to go ahead and take away John Heisman's three undefeated seasons. Also all the games after 1906 when he had the forward pass legalized...those shouldn't be counted obviously, because Heisman only ran the ball when he played and because the trophy is a statuette of a runner, not a passer. So that gives John Heisman an approximate winning percentage of 17%. Sparky Woods's winning percentage was well above that at 45% so I've sent the Heisman committee a letter requesting that the name be changed from Heisman to the Sparky trophy. it's only logical.
ReplyDeleteJeremy is so F-ing ridiculous, it's beyond words. I mean, I might understand writing this crap if CJ were merely a human, or an elf, or maybe even a centaur. But for the love of God, it is well documented that CJ is a LEGITIMATE WEREWOLF. Matter of fact, I am currently wearing a t-shirt that has a picture of 2 wolves and CJ howling at the moon (ladies love it by the way). Only a moron would think that an ABSOLUTE CYBORG shouldn't be a Heisman candidate. I would write more, and get into statistics etc., but unfortunately I have a large order of grits and a sack of pepper to deliver to Clifford Jr.'s apt.
ReplyDeleteJeremy pulls for the cocks...guess that makes him a cock-puller!!! Maybe you need to take a break from your data gathering. You probably need to get away for the weekend...maybe SanFran for a few days! LOL...LOL
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that someone would mail a letter around like that. Trashing a fine young man like that just shows what type or person you are. Have you done that for all of the other canidates? If not, why? A case like that could be made against all of the canidates.
ReplyDeleteThat is why some many people seem to hate you and people like you.
"CJ is one of the worst candidates in the last decade"
ReplyDeleteYou dared us...sounds like a personal attack to me.
A hatchet job from a USuC fan against a Clemson player.
ReplyDeleteWhat else would we expect from you?
Arent you the same guy that refused to list Clemson in the top 25 backetball pole?
You are not a profession or any thing close to it.
I Guess with his stats being BETTER Career and Season wise than Reggie Bushs were when he won the Heisman dont mean Squat.........Was The Heisman Winner from the REAL USC not worth to hold his place as a Heisman winner?
ReplyDeleteI heard George Rogers on the Radio last week saying the CJ Spiller was going to get his vote.
ReplyDeleteI bet that gives you the shits.
Hey, his address is at the top of his letter. Let's send him some cooooooooookies!
ReplyDeleteJeremy,
ReplyDeleteLets use your same logic and look at M Ingram's numbers...
VT Long 39, 18 other 24 carries 93 yards , 3.875 ypc
FIU Long 16, other 9 carries 40 yards, 4.44
North Texas Long 22, 18, 17 other 5 carries 34 yards, 6.8 ypc
Arkansas 17 carries 50 yards, 2.94 ypc
Kentucky Long 32, 15, other 20 carries 4.65 ypc
Mississippi Long 35, 25, 18 other 25 carries 93 yards, 3.72 ypc
USC Long 54, 27, 27, 24 other 20 carries 114 yards, 5.7 ypc
Tennessee Long 25, other 17 carries 74 yards, 4.35 ypc
LSU Long 25, 23, 18, other 19 carries 78 yards, 4.1 ypc
MSU Long 70, other 18 carries 79 yards, 4.39 ypc
BTW Ingram has had 45 plays for 1 yard or less
Jeremy,
ReplyDeleteIf all you want to look at is production then how bout this stat you ignored. CJ is one of only 2 players in the country to score in every one of their teams games this season. Putting pts on the board every single week even when he only got a couple touches is production that can't be ignored. You also make these statements about his YPC being low but if he hadn't been rested against bad teams (MTSU and CCU) he would have easily racked up hundreds more yards.
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ReplyDeleteI found this over on tigernet and thought I would share with this board. The numbers are pretty good..
Jeremy's number of "nearly 50" rushes of 1 yard or less for CJ got me wondering. That seems like a pretty odd stat to track and would seem fairly normal for all running backs.
So, I wondered-
1) Is that number accurate
2) How does it compare to the guys Jeremy deems "Heisman-worthy" specifically Ingram and Gerhart
I did some research on the web and found some really good resources for stats like that.
As to the CJ numbers- the actual number was 48, so Jeremy's "nearly 50" was accurate. EXCEPT, that number includes 2 1 yard touchdown runs. Uh, Jeremy, I know you are a Gamecock fan so football baffles you but once you score a TD, you stop running.
Removing those, you get 46 for CJ. In 10 games, that is 4.6 per game. Not out of line.
Then I looked at Ingram and Gerhart. Again, after taking out 1 yard TD runs
Ingram- 44 carries of 1 yard or fewer. In 10 games, that is 4.4 per game
Gerhart- 54 carries of 1 yard of fewer. In 10 games, that is 5.4 per game
So, Jeremy, please explain. CJ isn't "Heisman worthy" because he has 46 rushes of 1 yard or fewer but Ingram- with 44 and Gerhart with 54 are?
Just more proof of what a pathetic douche bag you are.
So CJ had a bunch of runs for 1 yard or less. Then he breaks a long one(doesn't count). Are you sure you didn't get him confused with Barry Sanders?
ReplyDelete"Barry, I agree with you on Tebow and McCoy. I don't think they are Heisman worthy and shouldn't even be in the top 3 this year."
ReplyDeleteSo, did you write a letter explaining why they should not be in the top three as well or was it just spiller?
As a woman, I must say, how in the world did you convince anyone to have sex with you, much less impregnate twice? Now THAT is a statistical anomaly that cannot be explained.
ReplyDeleteEVENTHOUGH THE RACE IS OVER, IT SADDEN ME TO SEE HOW MUCH HATE INDIVIDUALS HAVE IN THEIR HEART TO HURT SOMEONE CHANCES TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL. WHAT GIVES YOU "J" THE RIGHT TO COME IN JUDGEMENT OF CJ? THE SAME WAY YOU WORKED AGAINST HIM THE SAME WAY ONE DAY YOUR GREATEST WISH OR ACCOMPLISHMENT WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOU. BECAREFUL WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS IT HAS AWAY OF COMING BACK TO HUNT YOU. CJ IS A GOOD KID AND YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO TRASH HIS NAME OR HIS CHARACTER. YOU'RE A POOR EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING AND SO IS ALL THE REST OF THE ASSHOLES THAT FOLLOWED YOUR LEAD... CJ'S STEPMOM AND PROUD TO BE.........
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